Pac-Man at Work: Breaking the Pursuer-Withdrawer Cycle – ‘The Leader in You’ podcast

Is there a Pac-Man situation happening for you at work?! 🕹️

One person chases harder, the other shuts down and runs away… and the cycle repeats.
In the latest episode of ‘The Leader in You’ podcast, Dr Lola Gershfeld and I talk about how disconnection and conflict in the workplace often play out like a Pac-Man game.

We talked about:
🔹 Why disconnection, not open conflict, is the real hidden cost in organisations
🔹 How the pursuer-withdrawer cycle shows up in meetings, teams, and leadership
🔹 Practical ways the EmC Reconnection Process helps de-escalate tension and rebuild trust
🔹 How repaired relationships can actually become stronger than before

This conversation is a reminder that emotions aren’t a weakness in the workplace, they’re the key to repairing disconnection and building resilient teams.

🎧 Listen to the full episode here or wherever you listen to your podcasts